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Here are some Questions and Answers I've gotten over the years about Exec II modifications:

bulletMessage one from KP4PK

At 07:10 PM 12/21/98 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi Ray....

>My name is Max and my call is KP4PK. I am located in Arecibo, PR. I have >an Exec. II, >desktop version that I would like to duplex to be used as a repeater. It >is a 56 split version, presently operating what I think is a MARS >frequency. I have several questions that I would like to ask you. >1. Do I have to retune the TX and RX units? The new TX would be 145.17 >and RX 144.57. If I should decide to latter change frequencies, how far >apart from the old ones the new ones can be without retuning?

You'll need to retune. Even for a couple hundred kHz you'll need to retune. I've never taken one down that far... so you're results many vary. Look for clear peaks. You might get away with just a couple fine adjustments. Or you may want to do the full alignment. If an adjustment reaches an end before you see a peak, you may need to change some parts. The 56 version is rare, I've never seen one. It should go just fine with no parts changes. If you had the 66 version, I'm pretty sure you would have to change parts.

>2. I would like to keep the use of the front panel; use the volume >control with the front speaker and possibly relocate the squelch control >to the front.

Good plan. I've built one that kept the front panel. Use shielded wire for the Squelch control to be on the safe site. I didn't remote the squelch with that one, but I have with my main system. The controller I use has software controlled resistors, so I can adjust squelch from home. Very cool. I ran both pots in parallel. So the internal one is a course adjustment, the external is a fine tune.

>3. Do I have to do the jumper mod. to maintain the radio on channel one >or just keeping the channel selector knob on position 1 will do? Position 1 is fine.

>4. I have partial manuals for a mobile Master Exec II. Can I use these >>manuals for tune up or do I have to get a set for the desktop unit.

The RX and TX sections are the same. The SAS board is slightly different and the control panel will be missing. You shouldn't need more than the SAS pin-outs, which I have on my page.

Enjoy the project. Let me know how you do with the tuning. I will be interested to see if they'll go that far down.

And a follow up:

At 12:35 AM 12/22/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Ray....
>
>Tnx fer promptness in reply. I presently have a 66 split mobile working on 145.17 tx and 144.57 rx with no problem. The unit was tuned and duplexed by Ron Wright N9EE of Micro Computer Concepts in New Port Richey, FLA. It works FB and the audio quality is astounding. Also is much more resistant to interference from beepers and other commercial transmitters that the unit that it replaced.

Yes, that cast front end does a good job, doesn't it? That's the difference between commercial and ham gear. A lot more money to build it, but well worth the extra bucks. I wonder if N9EE had to do any mods other than tuning?

>The desktop unit I got was purchased in an auction on eBAY. I confirmed the serial number with the seller and found that it was a 56 split. I paid for it $56.00 + $55.00 to get it to PR, but it was well worth the money. The boards look pristine; no signs of corrosion and better yet; no sign of them ever being serviced. The chassis is in the same condition, pristine and the case is in VG condition considering the age of the radio. The seller had 3 more units for sale. I only wish I had the had money to buy at least 2 more; but then it was only fair to let somebody else had the opportunity to get one of the radios. All were sold and bought by hams. That's the story behind this radio. I forgot... the seller is also a ham, and advertised the radios as 56 split, he knew what he was selling.

Interesting. Care to share the source?

>I will keep you posted on the progress of the modification and will consult you if I get lost. I don't have the crystals so I will order them. I guess that they will take 4 weeks to get here.

I used to use Bomar, but just switched to ICM. If you buy enough, they get down to $7 each.

bulletAnd now one from VE6RJZ

At 04:28 PM 11/29/98 -0700, you wrote:

>Ray:

>Hi, I am an amateur radio operator in Banff Alberta. I recently bought a GE Mastr Executive II Base unit. It is currently crystalled for 140.925 MHz and I would like to convert it for repeater use. My surfing from site to site in an attempt to find additional information about this radio has led me to your web site, which by the way appears to be the most comprehensive GE Mastr Exec II site on the world wide web. You are obviously an expert. Based on what I've read on your website, I think I will probably go with the NHRC-3 controller and hope you won't mind me asking you a few questions.

After complements like that, of course not! But I'll share this with the repeater mailing list I moderate on Onelist.com. That way we'll all learn a bit. I hope others will talk about their experiences.

>Here goes...

>Where can I obtain ICOMs for this unit and how much do they cost?

I get them at hamfests or extras in the radios I buy. Usually US$5-10. The nice thing about the Exec II is that any bands ICOMs will work on any band radio. I've used UHF ICOMs in a VHF radio with no problems.

>I am trying to obtain a service manual from GE (Erickson) but I haven't got one as of yet. In your documentation you mention cutting one side of CR906, where is CR906 located?

This is REAL hard without a drawing. I would scan them to my website, but I'm afraid that GE might not like the copyright infringement.

Locate the SAS board. Place it so the power transistors are at 9:00 and connectors most connectors are at 3:00.

At the lower right corner there's a pot (R906). CR906 is just above this pot... not the one to the left of the pot. It's a very small glass diode.

>You also mention jumping the collector and emitter of Q908, where is Q908 located on the SAS board and which leads are the collector and emitter?

This is real hard... There's a whole cluster of black transistors in the lower left quarter. It's about 3" from the left edge and 2" up from the bottom. Very close to it's right is 4 parts laying up/down. Resistor, resistor, diode, resistor. If you have the base station SAS, there's a coil/test point just below Q908. Short the top and bottom leads of this transistor.

>I do not intend to rack mount the repeater and will leave it in the existing case therefore, will I have to fix the ICOMs to always on?

If you want to keep the front channel selector in circuit, no need to install the jumpers on the SAS board.

>You mention connecting a coax from the duplexer to the receiver, where exactly should the new connector (SO239) be wired to and are there any other considerations that I should be aware of?

There's an RCA like connector on the cast section of the receiver, close to C301. If you have the UHS pre-amp, it will be right next to this jack and your cable will have to plug into the pre-amp first. Note that this is NOT a real RCA or phono plug. The center pin is shorter. If you use a real one you might bottom out and short it. Cut yours to match the one that came out. Use very well shielded coax. Try to route it away from the TX coax. I've used the cable out of another base station.

>I hope it is no problem for you to answer these questions, as you can tell this is my first repeater conversion and I don't want to screw it up.

These things are pretty easy to work on when you get the hang of it. I hope you have access to a signal generator and counter. Without them, it could be a bit tough to tune. I did my first ones with a handheld on lowest lower, under my bed in another room. ANYTHING to get a weak signal. As I tuned and needed less signal, I moved it farther away.

>ps: Have you every considered documenting and photographing, in full detail, a conversion of one of these unit and selling it as a Repeater Conversion Manual?

Sell? No thanks. Too much work as it is! Actually, the web site came from notes are for my use. When I started a personal web site it just made sense to put it there for everyone to see. I really have to be careful not to violate copyrights. I lost my digital cam, so it will be a while before I can show closeups of the mods.

>Once again thanks for the great website!

Thanks for the comments!

Ray, KD4BBM

bulletOne about the PTT lead:

At 08:59 PM 12/29/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Ray,
>
>Thanks for your Exec II web page! It's been helping me alot. (Until I get a
>manual anyway.)
>
>The question that I have for you is regarding the pinouts page. I'm looking >for PTT and on your pinouts page the pin that you have for remote PTT I have 14volts  on. Is this OK because I certainly don't want to ground the wrong pin. Where you show 10volts, I too have 10 volts but like I said, the next one has 14volts on it.
>
>Any help would be appreciated!!!
>

I'll assume you mean J901-B, Pin 4.

I've never measured the PTT line. But it might make sense to have a voltage on it. Grounding that pin does key the transmitter.

I follow that line to the input side of the 10v regulator, through a 2.2 k resistor. That input side shows it should have 13.6v. So I think you're okay. When you ground it, R908 will limit the current.

Let me know how it goes.

Message: 10
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:52:01 -0500
From: Dave Zawodny <zawodny@accesstoledo.com>
Subject: Re: VHF Exec II hi side lo side ??

At 1/11/99 09:45 PM, John Lock wrote:
>From: kf0m@juno.com
>
>I am getting ready to crystal up a couple of GE exec II radios on 2 meters. Should I order the crystals for high side or lo side ?? Is one side standard ? Is their a risk of it not tuning up with one side or the other? My initial impression is that there might be a higher risk of unwanted mixer image products with hi side. True or false??
>
>Thanks in advance for the opinions of the group.
>
>John Lock
>--KF0M--
>Wichita Ks EM17
>kf0m@juno.com

John,

"Traditionally," MOST radios USUALLY use lo-side injection.

However, when going to the low side of a radio's designed operating range, the
use of hi-side injection allows for the tuning of the osc., and multiplier
stages somewhere "more near" their design range, rather than on the edge.

I have found using hi-side injection to be more reliable on various radios
I've
put on 2m.

The "front ends" appear to be more "flexible."

YMMV:)

Regards,

Z a.k.a. WD8DZB

Message: 11
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:08:11 -0600
From: "CHRISTOPHER W. (Chris) BOONE" <Cboone@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: VHF Exec II hi side lo side ??

I always go lowside myself on VHF.....puts the image below 144
MHz.....but in cases where a problem can occur, you can use
hiside LO injection with no problem....standard IS lowside...
but the radio will do either for 144-148 usually. If you
have a 66 series mobile, it MAY (1%) require additional cap
to tune the LO....but thats rare!
Yes you COULD see more IMD with hiside injection if the VHF
LMR band is active at your site.

Chris
WB5ITT

kf0m@juno.com wrote:
>
> From: kf0m@juno.com
>
> I am getting ready to crystal up a couple of GE exec II radios on 2
> meters. Should I order the crystals for high side or lo side ?? Is one
> side standard ? Is their a risk of it not tuning up with one side or the
> other? My initial impression is that there might be a higher risk of
> unwanted mixer image products with hi side. True or false??
>
> Thanks in advance for the opinions of the group.

 

At 07:55 PM 12/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Ray,

I have four of these units and you are correct when you state the weakness is the power supply. Two of my three UHF radios have the PS problem. They go over-voltage and can cause some bad issues. I don't have a manual to find the replacement parts, there are two TO-220 case transistors and a T-09 pass regulator transistor. Do you know the replacements for these or do you have a parts list, schematic on the power supply?
I will re-inburse you for you time. It kind of defeats the purpose of having the desktop unit if you need to wire another power supply to run the radio. I have already done this on my UHF repeater....Hi Hi

Thanks,  Dan KA0OXH

Answer:  

I'm looking at the manual, but it's not going to help much.

The big one on the outside of the heatsink seems to be Q801, 19A116753P1 Silicon, NPN, sim to 2N5302. Written next to that, by hand, by an earlier owner of the manual is "SK9134"

The other two, Q802 and Q803 are 19A116118P1, Silicon, NPN. Not much to go on. I found them listed here: http://www.hallelectronics.com/getxt.txt  But no more cross info.

Another part I've seen go is VR1, 19A115528P4, Zener: 1 watt, 6.6 mW.

Also the big caps, C810 and C802, 10A126770P106 Electrolytic: 2100 uF +/-75-10%, 35 VDCW; sim to Sprague 34D218G035JT0

Good luck. Let me know what you find.



01/14/08 01:12:17 PM

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